Good News for Connecticut, But...

Cross-posted at Motley Moose.

This afternoon, the Supreme Court in Connecticut overturned the state's ban on gay marriage in a 4-3 decision.

From Connecticut Supreme Court Chief Justice Richard Palmer:

We conclude that, in light of the history of pernicious discrimination faced by gay men and lesbians, and because the institution of marriage carries with it a status and significance that the newly created classification of civil unions does not embody, the segregation of heterosexual and homosexual couples into separate institutions constitutes a cognizable harm.

As I am currently living the consequences of the anti-gay marriage laws in this country, I can appreciate the joy that the gay and lesbian families of Connecticut must be feeling right now.  

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Although this is good news for the LGBT community in Connecticut, this could potentially help build support for the effort to ban gay marriage here in Florida.  The argument that the anti-gay marriage movement is making to Florida voters is that Florida's law against gay marriage isn't strong enough.  They argue that it is vulnerable to a court challenge that would force the state to allow gays and lesbians to marry.  Today's ruling in Connecticut bolstered their argument.

And frankly, it couldn't have come at a worst time.  A poll released earlier this week showed that support for the amendment stood at 55%, down from 57% in August, but perilously close to the 60% threshold needed for passage.

If the amendment is behind, why panic?  Why support for the amendment fell a statistically insignificant 2%, the number of undecideds rose from 7% to 11%.  The amendment must have the support of at least 60% of voters to pass and the current polling puts those in favor of the amendment just 5 points shy of their goal, while those opposed are 6 points away.

In this context, the news that the Supreme Court of another state had legalized gay marriage just three years after the state legislature passed civil unions legislation lends support to the right-wing argument that the courts are taking power from the people to force a "radical, liberal" agenda upon them.

To be sure, there are many other factors involved in the outcome here in Florida.  Presidential politics is certainly an influence.  On the one hand, there is the "Obama youth coattail effect." The theory is that Senator Obama's appeal to younger voters may cause this block of voters to vote in record numbers.  As polling data shows that these younger voters are more tolerant of homosexuality, in general, and more supportive of gay marriage, in particular, Obama's coattails could help deliver crucial votes in Arizona, California, and Florida.  

On the other hand, there is a competing force, the "Sarah Palin God's self-appointed Christian warrior effect."  While the Christian conservative base of the Republican Party was openly skeptical of, if not hostile to, Senator McCain during the GOP primaries, all that changed when he chose Sarah Palin.  Her decision to give birth to developmentally-disabled son, her teenage daughter's decision to carry her pregnancy to term, and her religious faith have made her a darling of the religious right.  She is seen as a true believer, and her followers will flock to the polls to vote for her (not so much McCain).  While they're at it, these voters will most certainly cast a vote for the anti-gay marriage amendment.

Add to this the uncertain role that African-Americans will play in this election.  As Senator Obama has the potential to become America's first black president, it is expected that the African-American community will turn out in record numbers to support him, as during the primaries.  After more than two centuries of oppression and humiliation, the African-American community is certainly justified in its pride of Senator Obama and I am excited to witness this historic election.  But what affect will the increased black turnout have on the battle over gay marriage?

Supporters of the effort to ban gay marriage in California have openly thanked Senator Obama for helping bring out the black vote.  Why?  Anti-gay attitudes have seemingly been more pervasive in the African-American community than in the white community.  It stands to reason that the more socially conservative black voters would oppose gay marriage.  And that is what anti-gay activists are counting on.  At the same time, some argue that black voters are no more likely than white voters to oppose to gay marriage at the ballot box.

So for now, it's not certain how all of these events will effect the outcome here in Florida.  But pushing all that aside, today is undoubtedly a victory for gay and lesbian families.  This picture says it all.

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From the Huffington Post:

"I can't believe it. We're thrilled, we're absolutely overjoyed. We're finally going to be able, after 33 years, to get married," said Janet Peck of Colchester, who was a plaintiff with her partner, Carole Conklin.

Janet and Carole waited 33 years to say "I do."  How beautiful.  From the bottom of my heart, I congratulate them on this historic day.

But we still have work to do.  Get involved.  Contact Say No on 2 for more information.



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Tips/flames.... (2.00 / 3)

...for equality?


I'm a Rick-o-phobe.
by psychodrew on Fri Oct 10, 2008 at 10:48:27 PM EST

hooray for gay..... (none / 0)

and hooray for civil liberties.

we will all be "gay" for a while if Obama is elected,

(in the original sense of the term)

gay = joyful, lighthearted, ...


by enthusiast on Fri Oct 10, 2008 at 11:53:20 PM EST
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its starting! (2.00 / 1)

in jesusland drew - lol.


"Democracy! Bah! When I hear that word I reach for my feather Boa!" -- Allen Ginsberg
by canadian gal on Fri Oct 10, 2008 at 10:50:34 PM EST

cg! (2.00 / 1)

It's been toooooooooo long!  How are you?


I'm a Rick-o-phobe.
by psychodrew on Fri Oct 10, 2008 at 10:54:51 PM EST
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I think the group pointing (none / 0)

out the potential negative impact of increased African-American turnout is just trying to create divisions in the party; I think it's true that African-Americans in the South are more conservative socially, but that may not be the case with African-Americans in other parts of the country.


by Blazers Edge on Fri Oct 10, 2008 at 10:59:26 PM EST
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Re: I think the group pointing (none / 0)

I've never seen polling data broken down by region but the author of the LA Times piece I cited made a similar argument.


I'm a Rick-o-phobe.
by psychodrew on Fri Oct 10, 2008 at 11:09:31 PM EST
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Re: cg! (none / 0)

not too bad...  going on a well needed holiday in a couple of days to warmer climates.  and you?


"Democracy! Bah! When I hear that word I reach for my feather Boa!" -- Allen Ginsberg
by canadian gal on Fri Oct 10, 2008 at 11:14:00 PM EST
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I think my boyfriend put it best... (2.00 / 1)

"All you do is sit in your office and read.  How boring."


I'm a Rick-o-phobe.
by psychodrew on Fri Oct 10, 2008 at 11:20:02 PM EST
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that's funny! (none / 0)

he's in town then?  or better yet are you staying in FL when all is said and done?


"Democracy! Bah! When I hear that word I reach for my feather Boa!" -- Allen Ginsberg
by canadian gal on Fri Oct 10, 2008 at 11:25:09 PM EST
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Re: that's funny! (2.00 / 1)

He's still in Shanghai.  But I'm heading back for a visit this Christmas. I can't freaking wait.  American Chinese food SUCKS!  


I'm a Rick-o-phobe.
by psychodrew on Fri Oct 10, 2008 at 11:44:03 PM EST
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Re: cg! (2.00 / 1)

I miss both of you from C4O. Nice to see you here now and then.


by LakersFan on Sat Oct 11, 2008 at 08:03:45 PM EST
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Good News for Dems (none / 0)

I was concerned this morning about how this court ruling might affect the national election, but after thinking about it I have a sense this might be a blessing in disguise.  Obama has positioned himself to make an effective argument if the GOP tries to make this an issue.

"The court in Connecticut made this ruling.  The voters in that state will have their say.  I'll accept whatever they decide".

Voters who are passionately against gay marriage, let's face it, were always going to vote for McCain.  The question at this point is where swing voters will go--those who don't like gay marriage but also have strongly libertarian leanings.

Obama the libertarian defender of states rights can beat the McCain/Palin cultural warriors on this issue.  Not minimize the damage, think he could actually win votes (or at worst argue the issue to a draw).


by IncognitoErgoSum on Sat Oct 11, 2008 at 12:59:31 AM EST

Hispanics and Blacks (none / 0)

FWIW, when I was living in New York City, I found the biggest opponents of gay marriage were hispanics and blacks who vote Democratic anyway...some of whom were considering switching sides in local races to prevent the legalization of gay marriage, but the GOP didn't run candidates in those districts.


The American people; they were for the war before they were against it.
by nrafter530 on Sat Oct 11, 2008 at 01:13:38 AM EST
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Re: Good News for Connecticut, But... (none / 0)

I think this could actually have the effect of mobilizing voters in California to defeat No on Proposition 8.  Remains to be seen, but adding a third state to the list shows good momentum.

I've also included a list of quotes from LGBT orgs and leaders about the Connecticut Supreme Court ruling.  The link is availble here: http://gayrights.change.org/blog/view/th e_roundup_quotes_on_todays_victory_for_s ame-sex_marriage_in_connecticut_2

Cheers,
Mike


by mikeajo on Sat Oct 11, 2008 at 01:03:24 AM EST

I'm not going to look at the downsides (2.00 / 1)

I think we are at a historic moment for equality. We've got work to do defeating the three anti-gay ballot initiatives in Florida, Arizona and California and electing a Democratic majority to the NYS Senate so they will take up and pass marriage equality.

It's possible we could see marriage equality legalized in CA, MA, CT where it already is legal if   we beat back attempts to overturn it. IA where the state Supreme Court will rule late 09 / early 10. NYS if we take back the state senate. New Jersey if we hold our majority in the 2009 state elections and DC if they finally pass it and Congress doesn't overrule it. All by the end of 2010.

Additionally if we re-elect Democratic governors John Lynch (a safe bet) and Christine Gregoire (a tossup) and elect Gay Symington as Governor of Vermont (a tough one, for some reason the Republican incumbent is popular there) we could see those states upgrade from civil unions to full equality.

And at the national level we have a chance to elect the most pro-gay president in history who I think would be able to overturn DADT, pass ENDA and hate crimes and MAYBE repeal DOMA.

Things are looking good for equality. Let's not dwell on buts. Let's get to work.


"Live your beliefs and you can turn the world around." --Thoreau
by Populista on Sat Oct 11, 2008 at 01:50:58 AM EST

Re: Good News for Connecticut, But... (none / 0)

Back in 2005 I wrote a diary pointing out the CNN exit poll numbers showing that African-Americans were actually less likely to vote for these amendments than Caucasians.  However, we seem to see it differently due to most of the anti-gay white people being Republicans but almost all anti-gay black people being Democrats.  The diary generated a lot of harsh discussion and that might happen here too, but it needn't be.  I like to look at long-term trends among all voters and the trends are unmistakably positive.

The CBC has also been a largely progressive ally of the gay rights movement, with the exception of a handful of Southern members.  It takes time to change people's opinions, but I am confident that I will see marriage equality nationwide in my time.  Obama is going to bring a lot of young people to the polls as well, and that's a real advantage for our side.


by Skaje on Sat Oct 11, 2008 at 03:33:59 AM EST


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